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		<title>Comment on Fury UK and Blaze Bayley &#8211; Hellfire Fest &#8211; Birmingham NEC. Saturday 7th November 2009. by Jenny Tate</title>
		<link>http://rhubarbradio.wordpress.com/2009/11/08/fury-uk-and-blaze-bayley-hellfire-fest-birmingham-nec-saturday-7th-november-2009/#comment-389</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenny Tate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This review was actually by myself, Jenny Tate, not by Paul Hadley.  Just wanted to draw your attention to this.  Paul did put it up here on the blog for me, but I actually wrote it. Thanks to Paul for putting up on the blog, but could we please amend this?  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This review was actually by myself, Jenny Tate, not by Paul Hadley.  Just wanted to draw your attention to this.  Paul did put it up here on the blog for me, but I actually wrote it. Thanks to Paul for putting up on the blog, but could we please amend this?  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Disability Access to Rhubarb Radio by Jon Bounds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Bounds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the Beeb&#039;s new system (no idea how it works, but remember they&#039;re subtitling all of the output anyway) http://news.bbc.co.uk/democracylive/hi/guides/newsid_8226000/8226983.stm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the Beeb&#8217;s new system (no idea how it works, but remember they&#8217;re subtitling all of the output anyway) <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/democracylive/hi/guides/newsid_8226000/8226983.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/democracylive/hi/guides/newsid_8226000/8226983.stm</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Disability Access to Rhubarb Radio by Jon Bounds</title>
		<link>http://rhubarbradio.wordpress.com/2009/10/27/disability-access/#comment-385</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Bounds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>palantype / stenotyping is falling out of favour — it&#039;s hard and needs skilled people. Much live television subtitling is now done by a technique called &quot;respeaking&quot;, which as it sounds needs someone to say the words a second time. 

This is because computer transcription software can be trained to the &quot;respeaker&quot;&#039;s voice — this makes it cheaper and also introduces the homophone errors you&#039;ll see if you watch the news. 

For radio shows with a fixed set of presenters, there&#039;s something technical that could be built I reckon. Much harder for live events of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>palantype / stenotyping is falling out of favour — it&#8217;s hard and needs skilled people. Much live television subtitling is now done by a technique called &#8220;respeaking&#8221;, which as it sounds needs someone to say the words a second time. </p>
<p>This is because computer transcription software can be trained to the &#8220;respeaker&#8221;&#8217;s voice — this makes it cheaper and also introduces the homophone errors you&#8217;ll see if you watch the news. </p>
<p>For radio shows with a fixed set of presenters, there&#8217;s something technical that could be built I reckon. Much harder for live events of course.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Disability Access to Rhubarb Radio by Jenny Tate</title>
		<link>http://rhubarbradio.wordpress.com/2009/10/27/disability-access/#comment-384</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenny Tate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi everyone.  I&#039;m very pleased to see that this topic is being given such careful and creative consideration.  As you&#039;ll know, it&#039;s a topic that I&#039;m also very passionate about.  Therefore, I&#039;d very much like to be involved in this in whatever way I can.  As for solutions for the further inclusion of those who are deaf or hard of hearing, my ideas are a little bit thin on the ground at the moment, but here are some basic possibilities that I can think of: installing a loop system, utilising readout software, providing discreet mini amplifiers, especially for if or when we get the studio Internet phone installed and speaking of that, maybe we could make use of some red led light technology on the phone, in addition to a vibrate facility.  In terms of personal assistants, there are also lip readers available, although I appreciate that some people with hearing problems don&#039;t find these helpful, but there are also those who work as personal assistants in the sense of helping out practically with tasks which present difficulties for a person with disabilities.  I am aware that all these ideas will carry some sort of cost, but as Simon rightly points out, the law now compels organisations to make appropriate accommodations for disabled people.  Maybe it&#039;s also worth considering contacting some of the disability charities and requesting volunteers to help out with this stuff.  There are many willing volunteers who work in this arena already, who I&#039;m sure would be more than happy to help out.  If nothing else, disability charities are a good place to start in seeking advice and guidance about these sort of issues.  If they&#039;re unable to help, they can always refer you on to someone who can.  One very pressing point I&#039;d like to raise in relation to access to various venues from my own personal perspective is that of ensuring independent physical access for those like me, with physical, sensory and manual dexterity difficulties.  It&#039;s important that doors are made as easily accessible as possible.  In terms of preserving dignity and independence and also equal access, having to ask someone else to open the door for you does not constitute a reasonable adjustment.  Fortunately, this isn&#039;t really a problem at Rhubarb, but at many other venues, it can be a big problem, so it&#039;s certainly something to bear in mind when holding meetings and streaming from other venues etc.  In the same way that legal advice has been sought regarding the online terms and conditions etc, we could also do with some legal advice on this matter.  That way, at least we&#039;ll be doing what we can to make the concept of inclusion a reality.  As a former nurse, I may have a bit more awareness about these issues and many potential solutions to them, so please feel free to pick my brains about it any time, especially regarding physical access to places.  (Having to consider this on a daily basis has meant that I&#039;ve become somewhat of an expert in this area!) If that means that I can help out in some way, then that&#039;s all to the good.  I look forward to seeing the progress we can make in this area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi everyone.  I&#8217;m very pleased to see that this topic is being given such careful and creative consideration.  As you&#8217;ll know, it&#8217;s a topic that I&#8217;m also very passionate about.  Therefore, I&#8217;d very much like to be involved in this in whatever way I can.  As for solutions for the further inclusion of those who are deaf or hard of hearing, my ideas are a little bit thin on the ground at the moment, but here are some basic possibilities that I can think of: installing a loop system, utilising readout software, providing discreet mini amplifiers, especially for if or when we get the studio Internet phone installed and speaking of that, maybe we could make use of some red led light technology on the phone, in addition to a vibrate facility.  In terms of personal assistants, there are also lip readers available, although I appreciate that some people with hearing problems don&#8217;t find these helpful, but there are also those who work as personal assistants in the sense of helping out practically with tasks which present difficulties for a person with disabilities.  I am aware that all these ideas will carry some sort of cost, but as Simon rightly points out, the law now compels organisations to make appropriate accommodations for disabled people.  Maybe it&#8217;s also worth considering contacting some of the disability charities and requesting volunteers to help out with this stuff.  There are many willing volunteers who work in this arena already, who I&#8217;m sure would be more than happy to help out.  If nothing else, disability charities are a good place to start in seeking advice and guidance about these sort of issues.  If they&#8217;re unable to help, they can always refer you on to someone who can.  One very pressing point I&#8217;d like to raise in relation to access to various venues from my own personal perspective is that of ensuring independent physical access for those like me, with physical, sensory and manual dexterity difficulties.  It&#8217;s important that doors are made as easily accessible as possible.  In terms of preserving dignity and independence and also equal access, having to ask someone else to open the door for you does not constitute a reasonable adjustment.  Fortunately, this isn&#8217;t really a problem at Rhubarb, but at many other venues, it can be a big problem, so it&#8217;s certainly something to bear in mind when holding meetings and streaming from other venues etc.  In the same way that legal advice has been sought regarding the online terms and conditions etc, we could also do with some legal advice on this matter.  That way, at least we&#8217;ll be doing what we can to make the concept of inclusion a reality.  As a former nurse, I may have a bit more awareness about these issues and many potential solutions to them, so please feel free to pick my brains about it any time, especially regarding physical access to places.  (Having to consider this on a daily basis has meant that I&#8217;ve become somewhat of an expert in this area!) If that means that I can help out in some way, then that&#8217;s all to the good.  I look forward to seeing the progress we can make in this area.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Disability Access to Rhubarb Radio by simon gray</title>
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		<dc:creator>simon gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@paul - certainly, keeping with the deafness example, speech-to-text typist &amp; signers don&#039;t come cheap (upwards of £400 per day each, &amp; you usually need a couple, especially for signers), so effectively voluntary / community-organised events would not be able to afford to pay a professional interpreter to come along.

but on the other hand, if communities could support their members in learning to acquire the skills themselves, then those members could become even more valuable members of their communities !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@paul &#8211; certainly, keeping with the deafness example, speech-to-text typist &amp; signers don&#8217;t come cheap (upwards of £400 per day each, &amp; you usually need a couple, especially for signers), so effectively voluntary / community-organised events would not be able to afford to pay a professional interpreter to come along.</p>
<p>but on the other hand, if communities could support their members in learning to acquire the skills themselves, then those members could become even more valuable members of their communities !</p>
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		<title>Comment on Disability Access to Rhubarb Radio by Paul Hadley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Hadley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing that is going to prove an interesting investigation is the fact that many similar events (like wxwm, barcamps, surgeries etc) are all run voluntarily.
I&#039;d like to see if the specialised support from the people that actually deliver the communication platforms (forgive me if I&#039;m not using the correct phrases here) would also contribute their time voluntarily also.
Events with budgets have the opportunity to build this into their planning and delivery process, but what will happen at non-funded events? Would we see the passion and dedication at those also, or do the specialised service providers only do this sort of thing for payment?
I guess we&#039;ll see...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that is going to prove an interesting investigation is the fact that many similar events (like wxwm, barcamps, surgeries etc) are all run voluntarily.<br />
I&#8217;d like to see if the specialised support from the people that actually deliver the communication platforms (forgive me if I&#8217;m not using the correct phrases here) would also contribute their time voluntarily also.<br />
Events with budgets have the opportunity to build this into their planning and delivery process, but what will happen at non-funded events? Would we see the passion and dedication at those also, or do the specialised service providers only do this sort of thing for payment?<br />
I guess we&#8217;ll see&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Disability Access to Rhubarb Radio by simon gray</title>
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		<dc:creator>simon gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>something which i&#039;ve been wanting to learn how to do for a number of years is palantype / stenotype - the machine shorthand technology (based on typing syllables on a special keyboard rather than letters on a normal keyboard) usually associated with taking transcripts of proceedings in court; live subtitling on tv news is also done using this.

another organisation i&#039;m involved always provided signing at our major events, but we gradually became aware that there was only one native bsl speaker in the audience, &amp; more often than not the signers were signing to each other; we also realised that most of our needful community members were deaf*ened*, rather than deaf, who had never learned bsl anyway. we consulted with our bsl speaker &amp; her response was that although she personally preferred the signer, she well understood that other people&#039;s needs outweighed her personal preferences, &amp; that with limited budgets it was a far better use of resources to provide palantype speech-to-text for the many for the whole event rather than signing for the one for part of the event.

it should be remembered that the disability discrimination act mandates organisations to make reasonable accommodation; i do think organisations - especially righteous ones - should try their best to go beyond making just &#039;reasonable&#039; accommodation as a box ticking exercise &amp; make proper efforts for genuine inclusiveness; but that said, i don&#039;t think organisations should be prevented from carrying out work at all because their budget can&#039;t stretch to making the event totally inclusive - creative solutions should be allowed to be applied which although may not satisfy everybody&#039;s wishes perfectly do at least satisfy needs as a compromise solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>something which i&#8217;ve been wanting to learn how to do for a number of years is palantype / stenotype &#8211; the machine shorthand technology (based on typing syllables on a special keyboard rather than letters on a normal keyboard) usually associated with taking transcripts of proceedings in court; live subtitling on tv news is also done using this.</p>
<p>another organisation i&#8217;m involved always provided signing at our major events, but we gradually became aware that there was only one native bsl speaker in the audience, &amp; more often than not the signers were signing to each other; we also realised that most of our needful community members were deaf*ened*, rather than deaf, who had never learned bsl anyway. we consulted with our bsl speaker &amp; her response was that although she personally preferred the signer, she well understood that other people&#8217;s needs outweighed her personal preferences, &amp; that with limited budgets it was a far better use of resources to provide palantype speech-to-text for the many for the whole event rather than signing for the one for part of the event.</p>
<p>it should be remembered that the disability discrimination act mandates organisations to make reasonable accommodation; i do think organisations &#8211; especially righteous ones &#8211; should try their best to go beyond making just &#8216;reasonable&#8217; accommodation as a box ticking exercise &amp; make proper efforts for genuine inclusiveness; but that said, i don&#8217;t think organisations should be prevented from carrying out work at all because their budget can&#8217;t stretch to making the event totally inclusive &#8211; creative solutions should be allowed to be applied which although may not satisfy everybody&#8217;s wishes perfectly do at least satisfy needs as a compromise solution.</p>
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		<title>Comment on ArtsFest Afterparty &#8211; Tell Your Friends by Get out. - Birmingham: It's Not Shit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Get out. - Birmingham: It's Not Shit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 07:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] If you&#8217;re not all classical fireworks fantasia&#8217;d out by Saturday evening, them you could do a lot worse than pop along to the Irish Centre where Rhubarb Radio are hosting an afterparty — will all the more danceable DJs as well as live acts fre.... [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on ArtsFest Afterparty &#8211; Tell Your Friends by Kipp Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kipp Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Artsfest Afterpartys gonna be huge: The Beat Suite will be live in session: Skeleton &amp; Dolhasz represent!</description>
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		<title>Comment on ArtsFest Afterparty &#8211; Tell Your Friends by Digbeth is Good &#187; Getgood Link: ArtsFest Afterparty - Tell Your Friends &#62; Rhubarb Radio in progress</title>
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		<dc:creator>Digbeth is Good &#187; Getgood Link: ArtsFest Afterparty - Tell Your Friends &#62; Rhubarb Radio in progress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ArtsFest Afterparty – Tell Your Friends « Rhubarb Radio in progress - Rhubarb Radio are hosting the ArtsFest after-party on Sat 12th Sept, 10pm onswards in The Irish Centre (or is it Connaught Bar?).   Share and Enjoy: [...]</description>
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